respected scientists say that it's conclusive. the evidence is clear. so i don't think the jury is out. >> the basic story of, we're putting carbon in the atmosphere, the planet's getting warmer, that's going to make the sea levels rise. the basic story of that, you pretty much agree, right? >> sure. there's no question that the oceans have risen, right? and the climate change part is a real part of it. the problem that we're going to have right now, there's no oxygen left in the room in washington right now for another big debate. that's the reality. >> you heard that, right? well, he did go on there, didn't he? but now, clearly congressman grimm has gotten the memo from the central office, using this latest term of art, i'm not a scientist. >> listen, i'm not qualified to debate the science over climate change. >> what is your take on global warming? climate change? >> i'm not a scientist. >> republican party has moved from complete denial to, don't ask me, don't ask me, i'm not a