they have never been politicized before, not ever. >> but they have been politicized to the extent that they were about, for example, usda agricultural subsidies of corn or making sure everybody has got the milk. they were maybe not part of it, but they were political previously. >> well, the program, i guess, we've never seen our people politicize the program. >> in a left-right, democrat-republican kind of way. >> right. they have always joined together to support the program for children. but they have forgotten about children now. it's not about children anymore. >> when we come back, i want to talk a little bit about michelle obama, our first lady, doing a kitchen dance with seattle seahawks cornerback richard sherman. [ shutter clicks ]