right out of their own cells. >> this was made by an arian brotherhood member in a security housing unit. they're in there with nothing, certainly nothing to cut through metal. this guy, he got ahold of some kind of cutting agent. the cell doors is all mild steel. if you take a spring clip like part of a fingernail clipper and that is spring steel, hardened skill and they'll sharpen that, they'll cut the weapons right out of their cell doors. they'll simply choose a section of the door and scribe on the door the same size as a weapon that they want to cut and they'll just keep scribing it until it cuts all the way through the mild steel. >> when gang members in the pelican bay shu make weapons, they're expected to use them. >> i was involved with the aryan brotherhood back in 1984 when i was at folsom prison. you know, we had some work that needed to be tended to.