in this, i am not sure she realizes the full impact in greater america. this is where the heavy hand of the government is coming down and trying to dictate to local school systems everything about even putting salt shakers on the table. >> explain to us what is going on there? >> first of all. if the isn't really michelle obama's program. it goes back to 1946. really president harry truman's program and recent iteration of nutrition standards updated nutrition standard really started under president bush. so there is that. but i think what we are seeingen that conversation is really a fight that we have seen take place around the school system for generations in this country. and this is, you know sort of a battle about states' rights. right? the school systems have been the site of politically contested site for many years. and i think with this -- that's what we are seeing. very much an unexpected fight. i think around thisser eissue. you have seen a shift. not clear why, why nutrition