who has both appreciated the problem and tried to make it better. you work on this on a day-to-day basis, this is your life to try to make things better for veterans. is there anyone who have been doing it right, if the people in charge aren't doing it right? >> i think chairman miller has been very aggressive in oversight. he's been sounding the alarm. i think speaker pelosi has been aggressive for year after year after year on these issues. and obviously the veterans groups have been pounding away. but it doesn't seem like america is paying attention or america cared. so i think we've been trying to sound the alarm. now that everyone hears it, what do we do? mr. president, are you going to answer this call or not? this is a defining moment of his presidency. this is a defining moment in american history. are the american people going to step up and support our veterans or not? that's the bottom line here, because this is not new. now you'll have the finger pointing in washington. now you'll have people calling for heads, and that's a step, but there is so much more here. you touched on d.o.d. and now the ig is looking at 42 cities. there may be 42 more phoenixes