american legion has called explicitly for general shinseki to be fired, for him to resign over the failure to fix these problems. as far as i know, iava hasn't said that organizationally yet. it sounds like you just got kind of close. what are your personal feelings on that and where does iava come down on that? how important is he individually? >> he's very important. he sets the tone, sets the command climate. he has to be the advocate in chief on behalf of our veterans. there's an old saying that sometimes the v.a. stands for veterans advocate, and sometimes it stands for veterans adversary. he's got to be the biggest veterans advocate in america and he hasn't really met that challenge. for us, we're asking our members. we're going to continue to poll, memorial day is coming up, we want to hear from our all of our members and make sure we're thoughtful about this decision and take it seriously. but our members are furious. they're outraged and absolutely disgusted by this entire controversy and were very disappointed with the president it'd. he did not lay out any clear