i know you addressed this earlier, the naacp was going to give him a lifetime achievement award in may, he's already awarded one award from the naacp. how did that happen, knowing what this man has done, his track record, why would an organization, in your mind, not only not fight -- continue to fight donald sterling, but laud him? >> this was the los angeles chap, knolls the whole naacp, and i don't know their rationale. i didn't even know sterling was on their program until this came out. so i don't know what their criteria is or is not. i do know i was with the head of the naacp, the interim president, on yesterday, and she informed me this was a chapter decision and they've withdrawn it. i think that it is a question for the chapter, but frankly i think it is more interesting to me that people want to question