week. that's a lot. >> i wrote four, craig, but i'm glad two got to you. >> even i know that. >> but here's the thing. the nra out in full force in indianapolis. opponents there calling themselves the davids versus the goliaths. the nra, it seems, still winning the messaging war. how can these davids get their messages heard? >> well, we've been asking ourselves this for a long, long time now. and the fact of the matter is the people who want gun control are far more numerous than the people there at the nra convention. so it's not really a matter of public opinion. if it were a matter of public opinion, this would be resolved long ago. what it is, they have a strangle hold over the national legislature here in washington and in the state legislatures in