see is how can you student athletes the ability to have a stipend of some sort, but also to be able to maybe put money away for them when they graduate if it's off their likeness or working. i don't think it's the ncaa. the commissionsers of the league have to be at the table, but the student's voice has to be there as well. >> i can see that happening. to go off that point, we had the fab five on our post live show a couple weeks ago. he mentioned and this is at michigan in the early '90s, he mentioned when he was at michigan, nike couldn't sell a shoe. they came in to michigan to say you guys wear this so we can sell it. they made the black socks popular, the long shorts. there's so many things that happen in the ncaa in terms of on the field, guys selling merchandise, we have seen what happened against ea sports, there's a lot of situations