character? >> well, it is a -- well, it is a very difficult thin line needle to thread here, and that is the point. that is why you have to be careful and one of the famous sayings that your heroes need to be dead and that is why you know about the hero and nothing new to come out about your hero, and for this guy to champion the government and what he thinks, a lot of people have egg on their face and they need to get away from this in a hurry. >> and thank you both, and you can follow hogan on twitter to find out where he got that ensemble today. >> and speaking of twitter, the tweet of the day comes from the friend of the show, grio.com goldie taylor who had this to say about cliven bundy. >> many are given him the benefit of age, and he is 67, and not 87. he grew up with the opportunity to know better. who would have thought three cheese lasagna would go with chocolate cake and ceviche? the same guy who thought that small caps and bond funds