destruction ofç america and murdered americans? by the way, hamas has praised osama bin laden as a great holy warrior and condemned the united states for killing bin laden. this is the organization that we are now asked to sit with. that won't happen. >> in fact the state department already said that you cannot be expected to sit down with a terrorist organization and they consider the united states considers hamas a terrorist organization. no daylight there so far. you talkeded to john kerry since this decisionwise made -- >> not only, not only vis a vis the position, the eu considers hamas a terrorist organization, so do many arab countries, so does the entire world. anybody with eyes in their heads. these people are calling for the on lit race of the jewish state and engaged in terror campaigns for decades and are openly, openly calling for the killing of jews wherever you find them.