>> we're seeing denials of care, disruptions in care. we're seeing a great deal of confusion and at times anger and frustration on the part of these families who bought insurance thinking that their children were going to be covered and they've, in fact, found it's a false promise. >> with 8 million people enrolled, isn't the republican argument tougher and tougher to make? >> 8 million, plus millions more in medicaid expansion. you and i both know the president isn't on the ball flot 2014 nor 2016. even the video makers no s know. they're making the bet that this fires up their base. and it's true, polls show that. democrats have to play something bigger. they have to pay to an expanded electora electorate, hoping those people will show up. the republicans are going small because they think this election is going to be decided skbrus by the base. >> thank you both for you time tonight. >> thank you, remverend. >> still ahead, developing news