me today, they said, are you surprised that she's leaving? and i said, no, not at all because, if anything, what she's done is put into place a lot of systems to try to repair the damage that was done that she did own. and the president, too, for that matter. i think both of them said it stops here and it stops with me and that was very fair. >> as her client, said she's leaving because obamacare won. do you think that's right? >> that's the short version. i think she's also looking to what to do next. i think it will be even more interesting. here is a woman that's very, very accomplished but clearly still has a lot more to offer, and i think it's going to come in public service, so we'll see. >> and also now went from being, i think, someone who people didn't have strong, polarized feelings about, the former governor of kansas. so her national pro-fail has expanded in all sorts of ways, dr. patel, thank you so much. >> thanks, chris. >> have you heard of something we here in tv world call b roll? >> do you need shots of ordinary people doing things for your next commercial? we have that b roll. two men pointing at an office file, we have that b roll.