you need leadership, it's political and police leadership you need beyond the issue of the split second of the last few moments of this man's life. >> what would be your reaction if you were in the department investigating this shooting and you found he's shoot in the back? >> well, it's certainly an issue. a department that values human life, they shoot because they must, not because they're choosing to. that would be something you're looking at. does this department properly emphasize shooting as an absolute last resort, the preservation of human life as the top priority. and this couple, with some of the ore incidents raises serious questions, whether albuquerque puts the proper emphasis on shooting as an absolute last resort, shooting because absolutely your back is against the wall and you have no choice to do that. that's the proper balance in this equation. >> mr. sanchez, i think we can all see a range of choices that were available to those police officers there. they are there responding to the crime of illegal camping, which