complete the process. so after a supreme court battle which ultimately upheld the constitutionality of the affordable care act after a government shutdown designed to gut the law, after 50 votes in the house of representatives to appeal the law, after 25 states refused and are still debating it, after those trying to get in the way of navigators helping people to get signed up on the exchanges. after that and more, left to question without hard evidence the credibility of the enrollment numbers. >> they have no numbers for how many people have paid for coverage, how many so-called young invincibles have signed up nor how many people who signed up who were previously uninsured. senator barrasso, given that, how much does this 6 million number actually mean? >> i don't think it means anything, chris. the -- i think they're cooking the books on this. people want to know the answers to that. >> and fox news resorted to making graphics that tried to portray 6 million enrollees as actually only about a third of the enrollment goal of 7 million. check that out. anyway, joining me now is my msnbc colleague, karen finney, host of "disrupt." thanks for joining us, karen. i guess my first question after