delegated to. i think there is a lot in the particulars of this investigation that are really difficult for chris christie and really incriminating for the administration generally. i say before you get to mastering the facts of the case, you've got these things that christie has publicly said. >> you and i, i would guess you and i disagree as i disagree with everybody about christie about what he knew and what he didn't. we agree on the delegation part. i think a lot of voters would also agree that this is a troubling set of facts, that they are trashing these people. now chris christie's people are trashing people that ran the state of new jersey and ran chris christie's operation and saying they were total wrecks and acting unprofessionally and emotional basket cases. oh, by the way, i let them run the state of new jersey. >> joe, it doesn't matter what we believe. a big majority of voters