something different to say now than they said then. based on what they were saying back then with witnesses who were interviewed, it is a vindication of the fact that the governor didn't know beforehand and the governor didn't order it. >> in order to give this investigation a little more credibility, should gibson dunn the law firm that conducted it release the full transcript of the interview they did with governor christie? >> that's up to them. i mean, i don't know how much more it contains. >> i'm asking you. do you think it would be better for governor christie if that were public? >> i think the more that's made public, the better it is. and the more they share with the joint committee, and obviously, they're going to give everything to the u.s. attorney. i would consider that to be the most important part. are they giving everything to the u.s. attorney? >> let me ask you about chris christie's political future. here's a guy in 2013, he had sort of three big trademarks. he was seen as a competent guy, a straight shooter and had