>> well, there were really two things he wanted you to know here, both how bad these two people acted and how much they betrayed him. he let the world know this made him cry. that was actually one of the details that was in there, and i think, you know, as to that question you were raising before, why would they throw him under the bus so far and give him incentive to cooperate with investigators, watching this investigation unfold so far it's kind of clear they are both looking for immunity, so he may have decided that ship already sailed. >> at that point you say, well, they made a deal to say these things to get themselves out of what was clearly a very bad legal situation, because they are responsible for this. >> right. he's been actually very consistent in his retelling of what's happened. he's stuck by his story. he feels, i'm sure he really does believe he did absolutely nothing wrong. so far he hasn't had anybody come out and have an e-mail where he directed the bridge closure.