turns before it went in a long, straight line before running out of fuel. but that does tell us something about -- >> you've seen so many -- you've covered so many airline crashes and disasters over your long career -- >> sadly. >> yeah, sadly. it's sort of macob work. does this stand out? i mean, it seems to have captivated everyone's imagination partly because it so defies any of the normal explanatory frameworks. >> oh, yeah, just bizarre, the whole scenario. first of all, the fact we're 13 days out now and know so little of any value in determining what happened. the fact you mentioned earlier, the remoteness of where all this is happening. this is really unprecedented. you know, it's a modern day -- all those decades after. >> is there precedent in your career of times when crashes have happened and there's been a whole set of theories offered and, you know, there's maybe six or seven theories people are