plane. so it probably went south. you flew in this part of the world as a young navy pilot. what are the challenges here, especially when we're talking about potentially something deep in the sea, something this large? what can you tell us about having been above that area? >> well, first i would not throw out the possibility that this aircraft was able to slip past radar in some of these -- for lack of a better term -- third world countries. >> really? >> one possible way that that could happen would be if the aircraft shadowed another aircraft. in other words, a loose formation. if he flew that much in that area, he would know schedules, he would recognize certain flights -- >> explain what that means for people who aren't aviation experts because this is another near they's out there and that's been talked about a lot. i've got to tell you, it just -- man, that's a level of luck and