russians today, but when you look at the stock and currency markets, they both spiked, almost like a celebration of what happened here. so what's going to turn the tide? >> i think major economic sanctions, particularly that target russian banks. these sanctions were a slap on the wrist, like you said. the russian stock market actually rose by 2% after we unveiled these tough sanctions to the europeans. so we're not inflicting economic pain. and there's a political problem here for president obama. his approval rating is about 41% in the united states. there was a weekend poll that showed that 64% of americans thought of hillary clinton as a strong leader in terms of a president. president obama, 50%. this makes him look like a weak leader, if he can't come up with a stronger strategy against putin. >> and of course, the question becomes, we've talked about this over the last couple of weeks, ambassador, sort of the end game here, what does vladimir putin really want, what does he think he can get. there was an interesting article about a guy who had sat down