i think the broader point that crithcley is making here is he's placing the burden fully on the committee saying we're not going to help you. you're asking us to provide documents that may incriminate my client. we're not going to concede the documents already in your possession are authentic. so he's really laying the gauntlet down and challenging the committee to prove its case much the same way that a federal prosecutor or another law enforcement agency would do it. >> shawn boburg, reporter for the "bergen record." thank you for helping us understand this. it's amazing to be able to see these people in person because we've heard so much about them without seeing them in action today, but the story continues to get thicker and thicker. thanks, shawn. one of the major issues that needs to be settled here is whether or not the committee really does have the subpoena power that it thinks it does. if the judge rules that bill stepien and bridget kelly don't have to hand over the documents, it will raise real questions as to whether or not the legislature effectively has the power to keep investigating this story by compelling people to