politics. i'm going to suggest it's either i understand you were a reporter for a while. >> a terrible report. >> or maybe president of the pi phi sorority. for seven years you spent that time. in your wildest dreams did you think you would be there at that point in your life. >> it's extraordinary to me even now that i have the opportunity to walk into the oval office. i think i was one of four women who had walk-in privileges. it's extraordinary to me to think about walking out on the south lawn with the president and getting on marriage one. it's one thing to be at a point when you get to fly on air force one. i think all presidents miss that when they leave but to fly on the helicopters that takes you to andrew air force base -- >> i can't imagine. >> and the president is majestic. to see him in awe of the experience of lifting off of the