borders, on the country borders, since world war ii in europe. and that's why everybody has to act, because putin will not stop in crimea. next target will be east ukraine, next kiev, next baltics, because it's a logical dictatorship. he needs to add to his portfolio of successes. if people are poisoned by this nationalistic propaganda, it will require more and more blood and more and more territorial concessions at the expense of russian neighbors. >> all right. every russian scholar i've talked to believes that both bush and obama just don't understand putin. obviously, you've been somebody that's been saying this at a time when others weren't, now a lot of people sort of share your view on putin. what does move him? is it money? is it transactional? if you go after these billionaire -- the oligarchs of russia -- do they have influence over him? >> probably yes. it might be late, but still it's the best chance, because putin already has burnt all the bridges.