reflective of a life of dignity. i mean, when we know that the wages meet the needs of families so that big stores, big companies don't have to have -- >> what does that mean? different numbers in dallas than it is -- >> well, you know, texas, we're at the $7.25. >> right. would you like to see it lifted to what? >> i would like to see it lifted. i think that what we're seeing -- >> what number? >> well, the president has said $10. >> right. >> i don't know what the real number should be in our state. but certainly, we know that that's going to happen for our contractors with the federal government. when you raise the wages to a living wage to give people the opportunity, they'll buy more goods and services. i think it's a positive effect for the texas businesses. >> let me ask you a couple of questions. texas lieutenant governorship in many ways is more powerful than the governorship, and yet the governor's race is going to get allot more attention than your race. that's just a fact.