al qaeda is used and bandied about and strikes fear in the hearts when we talk about benghazi or talk about unseen threats but when we actually get to the business of sort of justice, it has what you call almost some nal equality. do you equate that to 9/11 was a long time ago and not long time ago. americans' appetite for the engagement of war have declined significantly. the latest polling, was it a mistake to send troops to afghanistan? for the first time, more people said yes than no, 49-48%. the president in the saint of t -- state of the union said this war like all wars must end. we're pursuing a national security policy rely an on special ops and drone. it happens in secret and the public is ever, ever less engaged. >> some of it is probably things that have dragged on too long a