>> well, i'm just reviewing my transcript from "meet the press" in 1975. i find a lot of similarities. there i was talking about limits. i'm still talking about limits but also talking about full employment and equality. so i changed. "a," i'm 40 years older. two, i've done a lot of things. and i've learned a lot of things. so i'm older and wiser. but i'm just as energetic and i'd have to say just as ambitious. >> you've seen in arizona big debate this week over freedom of religion, but also, the specter of discrimination against gays and lesbians because of the bill that was ultimately vetoed by the governor there. are the culture wars rearing their head again whether it's about religion or gay rights or abortion, contraception in this election year? >> they might. i can tell you if you ask me how things have changed, 40 years ago, one couldn't even talk about gay rights.