your gut is right. here's why, from the point of view of facts of the evidence. >> lisa bloom, i enjoyed covering that trial with you. you were insightful if nothing else. i've started the book. it's a good read. thank you for stopping by. >> i appreciate that. >> be well. my next guest was elected to public office at 22. now he hopes to make more history. perhaps becoming south carolina's first african-american statewide office holder since 1872. yes, 1872. he's also vice chairman of the south carolina democratic party. good to see you, sir. >> thank you for having me this saturday afternoon, craig. >> it's a steep climb for democrats in south carolina. what's different this time? >> well, for me, it's about another step in the journey. my parents always told me as i was growing up i could be anything in the world, just be a