have a tax program, too. it turns out to clobber the majority of the american public. >> right. it's easy to be against things. but they've got to find a more positive message about the future of this country. ed to, speaker boehner met with president obama, one-on-one. the last time these two met was december 20 we feel. i find this pretty embarrassing. i think this speaks to how polarizing the political environment is today. i would have loved 0 to have been a fly on that wall. why are they meeting do you think? >> maybe a safe place to share a cigarette. >> that's the best theory i've heard yet. >> certainly not going to carve out anything. >> no, i guess it's another sign of boehner's increasing kind of impatience and angry hopelessness when he came out whistling the tune that he was whistle -- >> yankey doodle dandy -- >> zip-a-dee-doo-dah.