nichols. who do you think is the worst president ever? >> actually whoever becomes president, chris, thinking they're going to end up behind millard fillmore. i come into this with a perspective of former long haired hippy vietnam era war protester. and i think what matters the most to our country is when a president comes in and executes geopolitics that have this sort of global impact but also ruin things for all of us at home, and i think what happened under george w. bush is that they cooked intelligence, they created a case for a war to invade iraq, to get even for his dad. and as the former secretary of defense, donald rumsfeld said, we had no choice. the country floated on a sea of oil. the idea was to get oil. to avenge his dad. and hopefully end sectarian violence. and we look at this years later and we have hundreds of thousands of iraqis, some human rights groups put it at a million-plus that are dead.