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about to be embroiled in a civil war. but i just want to say, you know, ted cruz is doing this for a reason. these people are doing it for a reason. they want to remake the party in their own image. they're deluded. they think if they went far right, they would win more support. they will not. they will become a fringe party in the wilderness. but they're sticking to their principles, and they're trying to drive out the rhinos. i also have to point out they suspended the senate rules to do this, chris. it's really quite amazing. there was no transparency. there is usually the verbal aye and nay. they were using, they were putting their hand up. i think somebody was wiggling their nose as a secret symbol that they supported the bill. it's something we have never seen before. and it's really -- i mean, it's terrible for our democracy on every single level. >> ronald reagan, my fellow progressive, i now put this question to you. is the lesson of the 1950s to the republican party, they should have gone with joe mccarthy, not eisenhower? is that the message, oh, we blew

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