or come to some kind of pre-court proceeding and say what he actually did, then that's what you would make a deal. if i'm thinking about who i'm making a deal with based on what we know now, i'm looking more at bridget kelly than wildstein. she is a very sympathetic, loyal lieutenant, single mom of four kids. does anyone think she went off reservation and was doing all this stuff without higher-ups knowledge? most people think other people knew and she was just following orders. at the end of the day, i think she was a more compelling witness. >> brian, one thing i want to ask you about too. wildstein's lawyer in this letter. it is such a carefully worded letter. he says there is evidence that his client has evidence that can undercut claims that christie made about him in that january 9th press conference. he just states that there is evidence out there that chris christie knew about these lane closures as they were happening. he does not state that wildstein was in possession of that