benefitting from this. his clients are benefitting. that means he is benefitting as an attorney. and he is also being given big jobs, port authority, chairman, head of transition for the governor. he is the governor's guy. can this governor walk away from so many people and say i don't know that guy? >> well, it's very hard to imagine that all the consiglieres were acting without the governor's tacit approval. thing is something to the idea that transit is being used as a sort of political cudgel to punish enemies and reward friends. when you think about the moving of people, this is a public service. this is something that affects every new jerseyite and new york root who does a reverse commute. this is sort of an essential function of government. and the fact that it was bastardized in such a way i think is actually deeply affecting to the public. everybody understands what a traffic jam. everybody understands what mass transport. and that in particular is an aspect of the scandal that is very, very difficult for