to me at least harks a only in jersey feel to it. right? i always say, christie sort of traded on nationally a positive image of new jersey. the image that new jersey is home to a lot of -- people who are rough around the edges but give you straight talk, and they're not going to b.s. you. chris christie would go to these republican events, in iowa, wherever it was, tell them, i'm going to talk to you jersey-style and they love it. it would be blunt -- seems the other image of new jersey is reinforceed by all this, casey, when talking to republicans this week, were you picking up on that? this is new jersey. we don't want to touch this? >> for sure. it wasn't just appearances in iowa and new hampshire. his whole convention address. wleb he gave the evening speech at republican national convention, all of these graphics, new jersey. the whole focus. it's a big part of what he's selling. there is and was discussed a lot of concern about how his personality is a wild card. this is something any candidate that is making the jump from a small -- even a big state like new jersey.