it happens a lot. and it's something we have to be amore aware of, especially as we have these children in the educational system in public schools. >> absolutely. and let me ask you, when you talk with other parents as of late regarding avonte's case, and just general concerns, what do you believe you're hearing most from parents who worry that the education process, meaning the rest of us becoming educated on what is needed, what is just not resonating? >> you know, i just think a general stigma of autism is still something that's difficult to process. people just don't know what it is. and i think people are scared of what they don't know. and so it just has to be out there more. we have to talk about it more. i want to thank you guys for having me on a few times. really nationally, this has not been a big enough story. so this is a learning moment. this is a learning process for america to understand that children with autism tend to wander, and we have to make sure that we stay on them and we cannot fail them anymore. >> well, i've learned a great