bill baroni was one of christie's pointmen at the point authority. it's some of his subpoenaed e-mail, texts that are responsible for the stories blowing up. same district, you served with him, you were his seat mate. what are your impressions of him and had his role in the scandal? >> starting with my impressions when i served with him. definitely very bright. he was always at least on the surface very, very much a gentleman to me, very polite. we had a few laughs. he was the consummate politician. i used to say this to everybody. in fact, i liken some of the things i did that i did with well to learning it from watching him because he was really, really good at politics. just one of the best i've seen. i'm frankly, as so many are, shocked that he would be part of this. >> that's the thing. people who know bridget kelly