an issue. the question are whether the facts will turn this into an issue. >> he stood there for 11 minutes in an open dialogue with the press. now, only if barack obama and hillary clinton would give us 111 seconds of that would we find out some things we want to find out about obamacare, benghazi, the irs. >> he points out that the media in new jersey now is trying to count how many people may have died because of this scandal. he said that's interesting. they're doing a body count now. have they ever done a body count with hillary clinton, benghazi, and her other decisions as secretary of state? no, they haven't, and they won't. >> so karl rove thinks that the clintons should weigh in on bridgegate. what for? they don't live in new jersey. joining me now is our rapid response panel, james peterson, ruth conniff, editor in chief of the progressive magazine. great to have you with us tonight. we know where this is going.