but he wouldn't have waited 50 years to talk about it. he would have been talking about it all the way through. a month ago, no one was talking really about poverty. and you have just in this last week, on the anniversary of the war on poverty, you have congressman ryan, you have secretary rubio, we have this report. i think the president will talk about this in his state of the union and he'll also, i think, talk about it talking about women. so when anyone talks about poverty or about income and inequality, they've got to start talking about how women have these dual roles. they're breadwinners, caretakers, and caregivers. women are strapped between their children and their parents, and two-thirds of minimum wage workers are women. two-thirds don't have one sick day. how are they meant to manage all of these competing interests unless they have some support. >> we spent much of the first hour of the program talking about the issue of empathy. and in the case that you wrote for the atlantic, in the first