do, in your opinion? >> well, continue to apply as much pressure as he can. you're right. we have another agenda, a significant agenda. but, you know, like in the old west when the wagon trains were populating the old west, the notion was you don't move the wagon train ahead by leaving some wagons behind. the same is true with our country. we have people at the bottom of the ladder at this point, unemployed and in very difficult straits. and let's at least be able to do those easy things. it is not a big lift to extend the unemployment benefits. it is so important to do it, and it ought not be a big lift for anybody. >> yeah. i find it hard to believe that they can't find $25 billion in the defense budget. i think the president needs to be very vocal, very aggressive about this, and don't get off the dime at all. i mean, stay focused. this is where the country is on income inequality. former senator byron dorgan, always great to have you with us, senator. appreciate your time. thanks for joining us tonight. remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen, share your thoughts with us on twitter at ed show