moving fast when you start seeing same-sex couples tie the knot in utah. that's right, the same state that put tea party favorite mike lee in the u.s. senate and the same state that hasn't voted for a democrat for president since 1964 in lyndon johnson. that same deeply red state is at least for the moment the 18th in which -- in the nation where gay marriage is happening now. joining us now from our chicago bureau is wayne bessen, founder of the lgbt rights group, and igor volski, think progress.org. so wayne, utah. did you ever think you would see the day when same-sex couples would get married in utah? >> yes, i did. but i thought i would be older than i am. this is amazing. and the symbolic value alone is going to go miles for us. the writing is on the wall. it's almost like one of those old new york subway train cars.