from groups that are supportive of immigration reform. there was just a fast for instance and it may still will going on for some of those groups that are out there. but was the timing right in 2013? are they coming together and working in the right pace? >> they're working at the right pace, doing everything that's possible to be done. the question is, you know, this used to be considered somewhat bipartisan but you have these ultras in the republican ranks these days, the tea partyers, who don't want to see anything except for more -- >> i'm talking about those that got together and were putting together a fast for a good number of weeks as you know. was it too early? >> no, i think it's not too early. you have to keep mounting the pressure. >> okay. i want to switch topics while we've got you here and move on to gun control and the future of possible legislation. outgoing new york mayor michael bloomberg and activist shannon watts have an op-ed today in politico announcing they will merge their two organizations. they call it an uphill battle for gun control a fight that can