>> rev, joe points out the primary problem which is the base is shrinking. but within that minority party loves this rhetoric and it speaks to them in certain ways. that's where they live and breathe. but another huge problem is what you're pointing out in that segment which is the entertainment complex of the right wing. drives a lot of their policy thinking and a lot of their political maneuvers. they also speak to that same sort of minority within the minority party of the republican party. that's invested in these racialized discourses. the president doesn't have time for that and doesn't want anything to do with that. it's not progressive but it's not productive. we could spend all day talking about the rush limbaughs and glenn becks of the world. >> they have influence on guys blocking policy. that's why we can't ignore them. joe madison, james peterson, both of you have a merry christmas and thanks for your time this evening. >> merry christmas to you too rb