this health care plan today. if you have medicare, medicaid, or health insurance by your employer, you're not at a sense of urgency today. but if you're the janitor in my practice or the barber in my practice, you're under urgency to do so. this is an important day to be signed up. >> and it's also producing an extra burden on organizations like your organization that has worked with msnbc to provide these free clinics. it increases the burden on organizations like yours, right? when people don't have health care. >> exactly. even if the health care plan and the rollout was perfectly, you know, no flaws, no problems at all, there would still be about 30 million people in this country going without insurance. that's why the association of clinics and systems around the country provide that safety net for individuals who still would go without health care