and that is still true. although, perhaps that will change in 2014. but i still think the idea of having a woman as president is growing on the country and growing on iowaans as well. plus i think just her resume has grown. >> i want to thank you kathy for joining us. we will be talking to you a lot between now and 2016. we will pick this up on the panel of what we make of brian sweitzer, is there room in the democratic party to be challenging hillary clinton in 2016? we will pick that up right after this. easier to get a new passat, awarded j.d. power's most appealing midsize car, . and right now you can drive one home for practically just your signature. get zero due at signing, zero down, zero deposit, and zero first month's payment on any new 2014 volkswagen. hurry, this offer ends january 2nd. for details, visit vwdealer.com today