that's very scary for many christians in the country. >> so you don't agree. >> when you stand up and say that acting on your same-sex attraction is a sin, people call you a bigot. but the bible says that's a sin just as lying, cheating, stealing is a sin. what was left out of the interview was the most important part of the gospel where it says that we're all sinners and that we've all fallen short of god's glory and we've been forgiven and we can be redeemed because of god's grace and the resurrection of his son. >> chris, very quickly. >> i mean i think it's really simple. unfortunately these kind of divisions are going to continue because there are certain segments of the country that are never going to change their views on these issues. they're never going to move in a more progressive direction and they can sit there and pretend like this is the gay lobby or somebody else that's at fault. this is the fault that at the end of the day that they have not come to terms with the fact that the country has changed. it is moving in a different direction. it is making people feel bad about who they are is not a good way to do business or to live in this country.