that we're actually on to something good here. but i want to pick up on what igor was saying. >> i'll let you, but you're suggesting in a more normal politics, there's not a declaration of the great win and the great loss, but everyone losing a great deal? >> i think in the last couple of years, it's either been, you have to win and i have to lose. and i think if this case, we found that both sides had to give a little, both sides got a little of what they wanted, which is maybe the art of compromise. but here's a guy, i've known john boehner for 22 years. you showed the clip of him crying. the john boehner you saw in these clips of him being upset and him wanting to say, enough is enough, enough is enough, this is ridiculous. he has about 30 or 40 members of the house who want to vote no on everything that's out there. he wants to get things done and a way to work the president and he's been stymied. and i say good for him. >> i want to listen to paul ryan talking about that boehner that you're describing there for just a moment. he was on "meet the press" this