disparity, and this study we talked about shows the gender gap narrows. 93% for women under 35. but 84% for women of all ages. in other words, 84 cents on a dollar. is that a sign that it's going to be a matter of time before we catch up? is there any way to make that faster? >> well, the good news is that the gap is narrowing for young women. the bad news is that maternal status or motherhood is a greater predictor of wage discrimination right now than gender. >> if you decide to have babies, that's going to hurt you economically? >> it's going to very much hurt you economically. what people don't talk about, 81% of women in america have children by the time they're 44 years old. so when we see that u.s. census number that women make 77 cents to a man's dollar for full-time work what we're looking at is the motherhood gap pulling down the overall average. we see that over and over again. >> there have been some signs recently that things may be