thing. and i think people like to toss around the fact that we have to stop them in some way from gaining this nuclear capability. i don't think it's inevitable, but i think if you have to hit iran, do it with boots on the ground, and you set them back a decade or two or three. i think that's the way to do it, with a massive aerial bombardment campaign. >> did you catch that? he suggested the use of nuclear weapons against iran's weapons sites and rather in other words do it with tactical nuclear weapons. well, this is scary talk, i'd say, having lived through the goldwater period. liz winstead is a cheomedienne d dean is a columnist for "the daily beast." i want to start with liz. you know, nuclear weapons are not small. they're not pea shooters. they kill lots of people. and once you use them against an islamic country, do you think that people in the rest of the arab world, the world around iran, would say my god, they're willing to use nuclear weapons in this region. they might do it again. and wouldn't iran say we're