to more than anybody else tonight. thank you so much for being here. i really appreciate you being here. >> thank you. we've got so much more ahead. please stay with us. lots to come. >> the police were hunting for him at the time, but african nationalists had arranged nor me to meet him. he's still under ground. this is mandella's first television interview. i asked him what it was that the african really wanted. >> do you see africans blg able to develop in this country?