>> absolutely. >> tony morrison said bill clinton was the first black president. i think it's more important to get a real one. >> we did. >> anyway, let's go to e the present time. here we are in december of 2013 looking way ahead, but not too far ahead because a year from now we'll be right in the middle of this thing. everyone will announce a the 2014 election. everybody willing in this thing. we'll know the field. and so my question is is he doing what he has to do? i love bill grade. bill grade is a great leader in philadelphia. you hear this great reporting by jonathan martin this weekend in the "times." there's hillary clinton asking what you and i would do in the same situation. you're asking somebody to spot the people and who they are in the community. who the state reps, the city council people. you got to know if you want to run for office. >> you have to if you're going to run for president. listen, clintons are good at this. bill clinton is a master at this.